Grateful Dead Live at Selland Arena on 1974-07-19
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- Grateful Dead
- DeadLists Project
MSR > D > CD patched with MAC > C > C > D
Mastering and patches by Dave Greenberg.
SHN conversion by Jay Gerland (EAC/mkwACT).
Project instigated and organized by Jim Powell. Additional patching by Tim Symons 7-29-02; Note- This is the previous shn set with the 'additional patching'.
- 2004-04-14 10:53:28
- MSR > D > CD patched with MAC > C > C > D
- Fresno, CA
- Taped by
- Transferred by
- Selland Arena
Subject: Bobby McGee
Spanish Jam is BEAUTIFUL
Very good show, easily one of my favorites
If you dont want to listen to the whole show, atleast check out the spanish jam and the playin
Subject: More like "Shockedurboootie".... (Re:see August. 2004, review, below)
REALLY GOT A BELLY 'LOL' outta that review... "....the Bruce Jenner of shows ...." HahahahahHahaha, hahhaha.....
this show.....(excuse me a sec....)
Haahahahhaaaaaahahahaha, hahhaha , OMG.....
"...the BRUCE JENNER, ...... of "Grateful DEAD" shows.....??????? STILL LOL - hahahahahahahaha., haaaaaaahaha....... Sorry folks - but ya' just GOTTA LOVE IT, NOW, 2016...... Post "Bruce" ......dun gone, parts and all ..... Dropped his shoc-put balls for an evenin' dress, and most DEFINITELY WASN'T AT THIS GREAT SHOW..... UNFORTUNATELY, perhaps...... (??????)
This is simply, a REALLY GREAT SHOW!!!!! - PERIOD
Oh what toils we "head's" can make. Oh what 'spoil's' our loving this band, we "take", being so focused on each tree in this VAST FOREST, apparently makes some, with such picky tastes, forget that it ours to enjoy. AFTER ALL, WE ARE.... THE AUDIENCE, and NOT THE ARTISTS, respectively.
And some of us...... NEED TO GET OVER OURSELVES, respectively.......
Hahahahahahahah "NOTHIN LEFT TO DO BUT SMILE, SMILE, SMILE...."
Subject: Bertha don't ya come around here anymore
I listened to Bertha from both and for me the Charlie Miller works better with my set-up.
Drums are very high-up so far in the mix perhaps that is why even though it is a mellow show it is like dancing inside Billy's drum kit at times.
Don't you let that deal go down!
Subject: seastones, here mislabelled "tuning"
Subject: good show, good energy
One issue with all of the reviews, and I know it's been pointed out a thousand times, but its gets tiring looking at every single review on here that states "this is the best XXXXX"..Seriously, a bit of salt needs consuming with all Dead related reviews..S0
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Subject: wall of sound
Subject: WRS through Doll
The Let it Grow is furious. Manic. Perfect. Garcia and Lesh intertwine like lightning and thunder.
Then it gets serious. Very serious. As serious as it's every gotten with any band who has ever picked up instruments and tried to play them as a unit.
The Spanish jam, led by Lesh is just downright stunning. It's what this band is all about and something that every fan should hear, but new fans should probably wait a bit before listening to something this heavy, this thick. It can be quite scary for the uninitiated.
Then the Eyes is wonderful and the Doll is a perfect way to finish it off, even though the Doll can't come close to matching the perfection of what was played before it.
A historic passage starting at the Weather Report Prelude and ending at the Doll.
Subject: A mixed bag, overall fantastic
Now for the praise: even with all the miscues, much of the playing in this show is creative and brilliant. Everyone had shining moments,and it was even a pretty good show for Donna. Bobby McGee was very good, Scarlet was on fire, and even El Paso was performed well. The WRS was quite good, but the Eyes of the World was stunning!
There was plenty of fine playing and magic in this show. If not for the unusual number and severity of buzz-killing errors, it would have easily been a five skull show. I gotta give it a four.
Subject: Good fun!
for the record, Donna sucked and was nothing but a buzz kill. Nobody hated her until they heard her wailing and shrieking on PITB, OMSN, TMNS, SAD, DITS and many other acronyms. She didn't have a monitor?!? They should have held back on the microphone as well. She has earned all criticisms thrown in her direction.
Subject: Revised 9/9/10
while i don't find the opening 'jam' to be all that interesting, there are plenty of other great little songs in the 1st set, too, like Deal, BIODTL, and Tennessee Jed, and as other reviewers have said, a spectacular Playin' where phil really lets loose.
which is nothing compared to the ridiculous 2nd set, where he just goes crazy...was this his best year or what?! again, like everyone else i have nothing but praise for the monster jam of WRS>Spanish>Eyes>China. the WRS is the hands down winner for best ever, and the Spanish is also easily the best of the many in '74. and despite the minor key sections of Eyes being a bit wobbly, phil's soloing makes it a fantastically unique version that ranks among the greatest ever played as well.
great, great GREAT show indeed...
Subject: Great Show
Happy Birthday Keith. You are still missed.
Subject: good stuff
That being said, it's got great energy and plenty of serious jamming... The ten minute opener is a great little thing (probably a soundcheck, but who knows). The whole first set is more than solid; Bertha wasn't great (by my standards anyway) but everything from Mexicali through Playing was fantastic, especially Row Jimmy and Scarlet Begonias.
The Playing in the Band here is KICKASS. It's a full half hour and touches on several different grounds. I was sad they didn't seg into something else, but it's a wonderful, compact jam.
The second set is great (skip the Seastones, though...), with Brown-Eyed Women being a great energy boost to start it off. Things get sweet with It Must Have Been The Roses, and the He's Gone > US Blues is great, with an unexpectedly spacey seg in between the two. The WRS through China Doll is fantastic too. Spanish Jam here is one of the best.
So, why was I not COMPLETELY blown away by this? Not sure... Maybe the jams just weren't QUITE my thing, or maybe my ear has temporarily become numb to the sound of 1974. But this sort of thing is awfully subjective. My suggestion - get this legendary show, and decide whether it is YOUR thing or not afterwards. It definitely has the potential to be.
Subject: Subtle notes...
Rocking show for sure. Spanish Jam - Dr. Lesh Bass is in..
Englishtown '77 still my favorite Eyes..
Kudos to Gleng1 for the comments on Donna. Although I don't enjoy the wailing on most tunes, she added a dynamic that you gotta love for what it was..
Subject: Wait a minute...
So you're at a show in '74. The band comes out and starts to jam -- nothing serious, just having a lot of fun playing music with each other -- great musicians playing casually just for the joy of it with what might be the world's best sound system (Wall of Sound) and this is a BAD thing? "Stop all that jamming -- I have important TV shows to watch later." I dunno... if I had caught this at any of the shows I attended I would have been THRILLED!
Separately, let's not be too hard on Donna -- I happen to LOVE her bit in Scarlet Begonias in this era. She came from Muscle Shoals, possible the tightest back-up singers ever and had to find her way with fans who decided that they hater her before she opened her mouth. Unfortunately the Dead never (rarely?) gave her a monitor speaker of her own -- YOU try singing on key without one!
Subject: I have to agree with smgarcia
Subject: Happy B-Day Keith
Subject: The grateful Mark
A new period of creativity was seeded.
Subject: My first show
Subject: Pretty Whack 7/19/74
What is up with this show? The mellowness...
The FAT Phil? Jerry's voice? the Jam at the beginning? The BrownEyed Women? The history of the this show? How did you people who saw this not loose it? Geofsky -- mellow is the operative word. Very fun!
Problems, for sure --
I'd love a good audience tape of this one...
5 for funness
5 for tunes
4 for tape
this is a real gem.
"Who are these guys!!!???" -
Quote from Butch Cassidy, not Neal.
Subject: Charlie Miller Source
Just a stellar show in a year full of them...
Subject: where's the aud?
july and everything after that year is filled with unique material, considering there are only a hand full of dates, mixed in between solo efforts. I find Europe 74, all 5 shows to be great, so to for August. 8/6/74 IMO sounds completely different than what was happening on tour in May-June, and so to does this date. The LIG is rich to say the least, and china doll is grown up a bit, jerry kinda toys with the mars hotel opening notes. (nothing touches Kezar for China Doll, but it's great to hear other excellent versions)
My only complaint is there is a cut in LIG, and considering OMSN is Aud, there might be a patch out there for this hole? I'd love to see that track fixed up.
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Subject: Silky Smooth
Subject: Not that good
I love the dead but I can't give this recording and this concert more than 2 stars.
Subject: In the mellow column
Definitely one of the better post "soundboard pillage" shows I've found in here.
Having once again listened to it, off and on throughout a 5- 6 hour period of my workday, I feel like I did when i made it through a show and was ready for the 3 chord rock me out of here, out to the lot and revel in the amazement of what we all just witnessed.
This band still amazes me.
Any body remember when the Philly newspaper used to rate concerts the day after with 1 - 5 Bears ?
Subject: I'll give this eight stars...
This show is everything a legendary '74 show can possibly be and more besides. Never saw it traded much back when everything was cassette- thank God for etree!
I had my whole Dead collection on random and it landed on the jam before Eyes and I had to stop and listen to the whole show. Some how hadn't listened to this one yet. Great Show.
Great reference to Miles Davis Dstone5553. I thought did Miles Davis Live at the Filmore East get mixed in with my Dead. The Jam (partly Spanish Jam) before eyes is sick.
Subject: a beautiful show
Tenn Jed? This is unbelievable + there is an unlisted Spanish Jam in there...
Subject: A great one
This show features one of the best sounding beat it on down the line and row jimmys I've ever heard, and Donna sounds just wonderful. Me and Bobby McGee sounds really cool the way Bob and Donna sing it and it goes on and on without very much in the way of a disappointment. This is a must have show. Its a wonderful sounding one. He's gone and china doll are favorites of mine that really standout, but the whole show is just absolutely fantastic.
On the down side there's a audience splice close to the end of row jimmy that must have been used to patch it, but it not too bad cause its very brief, and the Encore of one more Saturday night is from an audience tape as well. Other than that, this is a 5 star show.
Subject: All Time Great
Subject: GREAT SHOW!
Subject: Track tagging is messed up on VBR MP3s
Let me add that this show really is outstanding and even though it doesn't have as many reviews as the 6-18-74 Freedom show in KY, I think the setlist and overall show is a lot better. A great Playin', Bobby McGee, a nice Scarlet thrown in, Jack Straw, WRS, Let it Grow and rarely played Spanish Jam and great Eyes... This show has way more to like than 6-18 and has more life to it. I'm gonna listen to this one A LOT.
Sound is damn good for 30 yrs ago. It's not absolutely perfect, but for even snobs like me, I happily accept it.
Subject: Another great Playin', unique Let it Grow
EXCEPT for Seastones, which is self-indulgent and downright silly. Skip it, but listen to the rest.
Subject: Dontcha run off no mo'
Just wanted to add my five skulls to the pile.
Great show available here. Top twenty at the very least.
Subject: SPANISH JAM!
Subject: Excellent Show!!!!!
Subject: MY GOODNESS!!!
Subject: great 2nd set
Subject: Not a original, untouched source (Noise Reduction Applied)
Subject: great show from this era
Subject: Getting sick of handing out 5's but....
Subject: This is a must grab ! Really !
5-14, is just about my favorite '74 show. Two stiff thumbs up!
Subject: some comments
Subject: Don't miss this sleeper !
Subject: Song of the Sa-Weet Owl